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Post by snerkie on Feb 21, 2005 5:11:51 GMT -5
He has never won the Rumble... He got eliminated by MAVEN! heh, yeah that's gonna be something he's going to want to remember, hehe. But i just watched one of his matches then and realised Taker does the same thing every match, he ALWAYS walks across the rope (which does look cool) but he always does it and his punches...he always puts his hand in the way just before the punch but you can see itso obiously it's annoying. Maybe if he tried to do some other things in his matches he could be a bit better.
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Post by [D619S-Arrow] on Feb 21, 2005 7:10:33 GMT -5
Exactly that is what me and Lance have been trying to say... and what is a wrestler that does that!
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Post by jasonwestwwe on Feb 27, 2005 2:25:34 GMT -5
yea i would go with Batista he is a big strong wrestler and can beat anyone that can get in his way not like JBL he will have his cabinet do his dirty work for him because he knows that he aint good enough to beat em himself!!
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Post by kriegpaolo on Mar 26, 2005 10:13:34 GMT -5
stuff you all. Undertaker's better than nearly all the wrestlers in the WWE roster.
The Rock beated The Undertaker when he's as American Badass Undertaker. I can't imagine The Rock beated the Undertaker in Deadman form. And also, Rocky was a fan favourite whereas Taker was a heel when he played American Badass. it would be to the fan's despise if they see the People's Champion lost to a heel. And in the heel form, Taker has outsmarts The Rock so many times!
I know he keeps doing the same moves but what about Orton and Big Show. Orton keeps using the Modified Backbreaker, followed by RKO neckbreaker. Also Big Show with the Chokeslam. Taker actually has three finishers that makes him great. Tombstone Piledriver, Chokeslam, and The Last Ride. When Taker arrives in WWE way back years ago, he uses Chokeslam before Tombstone and uses it more than both Tombstone and The Last Ride put together. But he also shows great strength.
You're stuffed Doin' it 619 Style and Lance. let's compare Taker to most wrestlers in WWE.
Rey Mysterio: Mysterio needs someone to use his high-flying ability. Which is why lately Mysterio competes in tag team division. He couldn't even beat Bradshaw (happens 3 days before Judgment Day '04 and happens 24 days before Wrestlemania 21).
Rob Van Dam: Not really the sort of guy who is good enough to face Taker.
Booker T: Taker destroyed Booker at Judgment day '04.
Bradshaw: JBL needs all he's got at No Mercy and he showed it. He failed. Heidenreich interfered.
Heidenreich: Come on. He's not even a good wrestler. The commentators keep saying stuff about him that says he's all-powerful, but that's not true.
Chris Benoit: If it takes that long for Benoit to make HHH pass out at Wrestlemania XX, imagine how long it takes for Benoit to make Taker tap out.
Mankind: Yeah, taker kicked his ass too many times.
Randy Orton: Probably Taker's better but there is a small chance that Orton will beat taker at Wrestlemania.
Shawn Michaels: try and look at HBK vs Taker matches. Taker always destroys HBK.
Kane: yeah, right. Kane's body isn't even muscular.
HHH: The greatest in WWE roster today. HHH can beat Taker, and i'll laugh if Batista beat him. Take a look at HHH matches. HHH lasts longer than all Batista's matches put together. Anyway, HHH lost to Taker in Wrestlemania 2001.
Kurt Angle: Too many facts shows that he's scared of Taker.
Stone Cold: Yep. He can beat Taker. Both of them are equal in strength. But Taker wasn't at his best when Austin beat him. Taker's greatest peak: 1996-1998
The Rock: Can beat Taker as well, depending on the condition of the match.
Rikishi: Don't really think so...
Holywood Hulk Hogan: An older guy with a better technique, but weaker. has a great chance of beating Taker.
(I know that WWE's a soap opera. I'm talkin' about Taker's role. But with that huge body, the result may not be really different)
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Post by Lance on Mar 26, 2005 10:39:15 GMT -5
You bring up valid points. BUT, it doesn't matter what other superstars are doing, I am saying Taker is getting stale and lazy. And old. This has nothing to do with the other wrestlers. 'Taker is way past his prime, and all the points about him beating wrestlers you bring up aren't very up to date. What about Batista? Batista could most likely destroy Undertaker. Kane would probably stand a chance now, as early he was just a bitch at Wrestlemania to introduce Taker back into the WWE! Eddie Guerrero also has a chance against Taker, remeber how he kept him down with all his Frog Splashes? That 3rd one off the ladder would have had Taker if it hadn't been for the interference. Actually, at Armegeddon, Taker was struggling in the match, and probably still would have lost, even without Heidenrich's interference. Rob Van Dam is good enough for Taker, he really took it to him at No Way Out that time (2002?), and would probably get the better of Taker with his speed over power. BTW, can you not post any personal attacks, like get stuffed etc, keep it clean
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Post by jasonwestwwe on Mar 26, 2005 18:36:36 GMT -5
i agree with Lance i also think Taker is getting a bit old for it but i would like him to go back to his BadAss attidude again
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Post by kriegpaolo on Apr 10, 2005 10:15:26 GMT -5
Hasn't got pinned in nearly 2 years? You're obviously . In No Mercy 2003, Lesnar (with the assistance of Mr. McMahon) PINNED The Undertaker after nailing him with the Biker Chain. Seriously, with his main persona, I can't really imagine Undertaker getting pinned or subbed without interference. Kane couldn't even stand a chance against Chris Benoit or Edge.... I've seen him fought Benoit and he lost. He fought Edge 2-3 times last year. Kane always had the match under control, but Edge eventually executed the Spear and got the win. Just like that. But Lance, what happened in Armageddon 2004 isn't really what you were talkin' bout. Taker took all three down after a long fight, just one more move and he's had it.
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Post by HBK on Apr 10, 2005 21:02:39 GMT -5
I voted for Kurt Angle coz hes an olympic gold medalist and he has all the moves. Hes a TECHNICAL WRESTLER and hes just a plain champ. He could also have good fueds.
Wheres HBK?
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Post by kriegpaolo on Apr 11, 2005 6:41:38 GMT -5
yes i agree. Kurt Angle's one of the best wrestlers today. The thing is, Angle uses amateur wrestling moves which involves holds that aren't necessary.
By the way, in Tough Enough, he defeated Daniel Puder using amateur wrestling. Look at how he pinned Puder. You put your weight on top of your opponent so that opponent can't kickout easily like in pro wrestling.
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